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Jan Brown will also be our guest on the next show.
Well, our guest today is Chris Hillman, [B] the leader of the Desert Rose Band.
I think he knows this.
I've been in awe of him for so many years.
He's such a terrific singer and songwriter and has done so much historically for music.
That's true.
And this is the latest effort by the Desert Rose Band called Pages of Life,
which is selling real well.
As a matter of fact, we have a little
little clip here from their latest album, In Another Lifetime.
Is the name.
[Bb] Watch.
[G] In [C] another [Gm] lifetime, [C]
[F] [Gm] in another [Dm] day.
[G] [Dm] [C] If I say [F] what's on my [C] mind, you'll love [G] me anyway.
Please say hello to [Eb] Chris Hillman of the Desert Rose Band.
[Bb]
Come on over here, Chris.
[B] Good to see you.
[Bb]
Now, last time we kissed, you did not make my face bleed.
[B] New beard.
Oh, yeah.
New beard.
Have [Bb] you had a lot of attention over the new look?
Yeah.
They say you've lost a lot of weight, which I have.
But you see, we didn't work for two months in November and December,
and I lost the razor and sort of that rugged look.
This is cash, right?
Real cash.
Well, it looks good.
I'm going to lose this beard,
I think, in a couple of days.
No, no.
See, I was curious, because when somebody who's in the limelight, like yourself,
an entertainer, changes his appearance, do you ask for advice like managers and booking agents?
No.
No, Charlie.
I mean, seriously, there are people who would do that, you know?
There's a sort of a service that's popped up in the business in the last 20 years,
like image consultants.
And it scares me when somebody is an image consultant,
you know, because we didn't have that back in the old 60s and the birds and stuff.
Boy, that's scary.
Somebody comes along and says,
I think you should get a mohawk and get current.
Yeah.
No way.
Purple lipstick, because then everybody will, you know, do this and that.
So you've got to follow your heart here.
Hey, actually, you were on our show earlier in the week,
because you were part of the tribute to Roy Orbison.
Yeah, I sent you a personal message.
[Db] Young lady taped us in Los [Bb] Angeles.
That was Saturday night, last Saturday night.
I said, hi, Charlie Lorien.
But we didn't see it.
Folks, they didn't show it.
I'll go look for it.
We didn't know it was here.
I know.
Yes.
But we had a great time.
The [G] benefit Barbara Orbison, Roy's [Bb] widow, puts on for homeless people.
And a lot of real good stars were out there, of course, in country music.
Emmylou Harrison, Ricky Skaggs, Larry Gatlin.
A bunch of them were there.
Was that kind of an honor to be asked to appear?
Yes, absolutely.
And it gives me an opportunity to play with my old friends, the birds.
So David Crosby, Roger McKinnon.
We had a special guest come in.
Bob Dylan sat in with us and played.
So that was real nice.
Speaking of the birds, aren't you guys eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this [Ab] year?
We're eligible 1990.
Yeah.
[G] That has to be, if this happens, the highlight of your life.
If there was anything I would love to get as far as an award, it would be
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to be in something next to Elvis Presley or the
Everly Brothers or the Beatles or something.
And now with the new music, who knows, maybe the Country Music Hall of Fame in 10 or 15 years.
I mean, you could be a first there.
Hey, you're talking about your appearance at the tribute to Roy Orbison, which was for the homeless.
I know you guys speak out on particular problems that face America.
And one song I want to bring up, because you co-wrote it with Steve Hill,
and that's Darkness on the Playground.
Do you try to be socially conscious with your music?
Or sometimes when a thought hits you, you say, well, we've got to talk about this.
This deals with drugs.
Well, this [Bb] particular time, we don't try and write protest songs per se.
But this particular subject hit home.
I'm a father.
I have two children, small children.
And what we're dealing with in this song is drugs, anti-drug song.
And the song Darkness on the Playground is dealing with kids and drugs in the country.
And without being specific, dealing more in subtleties, but more on a level of compassion.
Is to reach out for these children.
And I say children, because they're real young that are getting into this.
And it's not just the drugs.
It's the general apathy in the country with kids where I don't care.
And I don't care what do I have to live for.
And that's what we have to steer them away from.
And it really takes a situation.
The government isn't going to bail us all out of this problem.
It's down to the neighborhood, the family.
It's what you teach in your home values.
And how your neighborhood reacts to a situation like that.
And if you have a situation, then everybody get together and work it out.
And awareness and education will triumph.
I admire your ability to put in a song.
Well, you have a couple of small kids.
Yeah, sure.
[Em] Everybody's concerned about anybody that has [Bb] children or knows children.
Or if you're an aunt or uncle.
I mean, this is a problem.
And along with a lot, we can we can fix them.
We can fix any problem that we have in this country.
It's a great country.
We're going to survive.
The [Gb] human race will survive.
[Bb] Everything will be fine.
But we have to constantly work at it.
Well, now, you know, kids hate to be preached to.
How do you do this in your song without looking like, you know, you're an adult?
I know.
That's the tough part.
You don't want to get on the soapbox.
And whenever you say, don't do this, of course, what are they going to do?
They're going to do that.
Educating kids really at a young age and trying.
All you can do is you can give them values in the home.
And when they're leaving that your house, you pray to God,
everything works out, everything you've taught them.
But listen to your children and love them.
Listen to them.
They're human beings.
They're they're little adults almost.
And you have to just have to read through them.
You know, I mean, [G] you've got young ones and it's tough.
No guarantees.
We can just try.
Have you always been this philosophical?
You really are.
And it's good.
I wrote all this down in the back.
Well, you know, a lot of people have termed the Desert Rose Band as the band
of the 90s.
So I know you guys are entering into this new decade.
I mean, just full of a good group together.
You really know, I'm real happy.
This is the best band I've ever been in as far as people and professionalism.
And we're just we're lucky.
We're glad to be doing [Gbm] this.
We don't really take it for granted.
We work real hard.
That is nice to hear.
We're glad you're doing it.
So pleasure to be able to do a new album from the Desert Rose Band.
If you get a chance to pick it up, you'll enjoy the music.
And Chris, good luck with the birds and the Desert [B] Rose Band.
Thank you.
Thanks for being here.
Well, our guest today is Chris Hillman, [B] the leader of the Desert Rose Band.
I think he knows this.
I've been in awe of him for so many years.
He's such a terrific singer and songwriter and has done so much historically for music.
That's true.
And this is the latest effort by the Desert Rose Band called Pages of Life,
which is selling real well.
As a matter of fact, we have a little
little clip here from their latest album, In Another Lifetime.
Is the name.
[Bb] Watch.
[G] In [C] another [Gm] lifetime, [C]
[F] [Gm] in another [Dm] day.
[G] [Dm] [C] If I say [F] what's on my [C] mind, you'll love [G] me anyway.
Please say hello to [Eb] Chris Hillman of the Desert Rose Band.
[Bb]
Come on over here, Chris.
[B] Good to see you.
[Bb]
Now, last time we kissed, you did not make my face bleed.
[B] New beard.
Oh, yeah.
New beard.
Have [Bb] you had a lot of attention over the new look?
Yeah.
They say you've lost a lot of weight, which I have.
But you see, we didn't work for two months in November and December,
and I lost the razor and sort of that rugged look.
This is cash, right?
Real cash.
Well, it looks good.
I'm going to lose this beard,
I think, in a couple of days.
No, no.
See, I was curious, because when somebody who's in the limelight, like yourself,
an entertainer, changes his appearance, do you ask for advice like managers and booking agents?
No.
No, Charlie.
I mean, seriously, there are people who would do that, you know?
There's a sort of a service that's popped up in the business in the last 20 years,
like image consultants.
And it scares me when somebody is an image consultant,
you know, because we didn't have that back in the old 60s and the birds and stuff.
Boy, that's scary.
Somebody comes along and says,
I think you should get a mohawk and get current.
Yeah.
No way.
Purple lipstick, because then everybody will, you know, do this and that.
So you've got to follow your heart here.
Hey, actually, you were on our show earlier in the week,
because you were part of the tribute to Roy Orbison.
Yeah, I sent you a personal message.
[Db] Young lady taped us in Los [Bb] Angeles.
That was Saturday night, last Saturday night.
I said, hi, Charlie Lorien.
But we didn't see it.
Folks, they didn't show it.
I'll go look for it.
We didn't know it was here.
I know.
Yes.
But we had a great time.
The [G] benefit Barbara Orbison, Roy's [Bb] widow, puts on for homeless people.
And a lot of real good stars were out there, of course, in country music.
Emmylou Harrison, Ricky Skaggs, Larry Gatlin.
A bunch of them were there.
Was that kind of an honor to be asked to appear?
Yes, absolutely.
And it gives me an opportunity to play with my old friends, the birds.
So David Crosby, Roger McKinnon.
We had a special guest come in.
Bob Dylan sat in with us and played.
So that was real nice.
Speaking of the birds, aren't you guys eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this [Ab] year?
We're eligible 1990.
Yeah.
[G] That has to be, if this happens, the highlight of your life.
If there was anything I would love to get as far as an award, it would be
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to be in something next to Elvis Presley or the
Everly Brothers or the Beatles or something.
And now with the new music, who knows, maybe the Country Music Hall of Fame in 10 or 15 years.
I mean, you could be a first there.
Hey, you're talking about your appearance at the tribute to Roy Orbison, which was for the homeless.
I know you guys speak out on particular problems that face America.
And one song I want to bring up, because you co-wrote it with Steve Hill,
and that's Darkness on the Playground.
Do you try to be socially conscious with your music?
Or sometimes when a thought hits you, you say, well, we've got to talk about this.
This deals with drugs.
Well, this [Bb] particular time, we don't try and write protest songs per se.
But this particular subject hit home.
I'm a father.
I have two children, small children.
And what we're dealing with in this song is drugs, anti-drug song.
And the song Darkness on the Playground is dealing with kids and drugs in the country.
And without being specific, dealing more in subtleties, but more on a level of compassion.
Is to reach out for these children.
And I say children, because they're real young that are getting into this.
And it's not just the drugs.
It's the general apathy in the country with kids where I don't care.
And I don't care what do I have to live for.
And that's what we have to steer them away from.
And it really takes a situation.
The government isn't going to bail us all out of this problem.
It's down to the neighborhood, the family.
It's what you teach in your home values.
And how your neighborhood reacts to a situation like that.
And if you have a situation, then everybody get together and work it out.
And awareness and education will triumph.
I admire your ability to put in a song.
Well, you have a couple of small kids.
Yeah, sure.
[Em] Everybody's concerned about anybody that has [Bb] children or knows children.
Or if you're an aunt or uncle.
I mean, this is a problem.
And along with a lot, we can we can fix them.
We can fix any problem that we have in this country.
It's a great country.
We're going to survive.
The [Gb] human race will survive.
[Bb] Everything will be fine.
But we have to constantly work at it.
Well, now, you know, kids hate to be preached to.
How do you do this in your song without looking like, you know, you're an adult?
I know.
That's the tough part.
You don't want to get on the soapbox.
And whenever you say, don't do this, of course, what are they going to do?
They're going to do that.
Educating kids really at a young age and trying.
All you can do is you can give them values in the home.
And when they're leaving that your house, you pray to God,
everything works out, everything you've taught them.
But listen to your children and love them.
Listen to them.
They're human beings.
They're they're little adults almost.
And you have to just have to read through them.
You know, I mean, [G] you've got young ones and it's tough.
No guarantees.
We can just try.
Have you always been this philosophical?
You really are.
And it's good.
I wrote all this down in the back.
Well, you know, a lot of people have termed the Desert Rose Band as the band
of the 90s.
So I know you guys are entering into this new decade.
I mean, just full of a good group together.
You really know, I'm real happy.
This is the best band I've ever been in as far as people and professionalism.
And we're just we're lucky.
We're glad to be doing [Gbm] this.
We don't really take it for granted.
We work real hard.
That is nice to hear.
We're glad you're doing it.
So pleasure to be able to do a new album from the Desert Rose Band.
If you get a chance to pick it up, you'll enjoy the music.
And Chris, good luck with the birds and the Desert [B] Rose Band.
Thank you.
Thanks for being here.
Key:
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Gm
Bb
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_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ Jan Brown will also be our guest on the next show.
Well, our guest today is Chris Hillman, [B] the leader of the Desert Rose Band.
I think he knows this.
I've been in awe of him for so many years.
He's such a terrific singer and songwriter and has done so much historically for music.
That's true.
And this is the latest effort by the Desert Rose Band called Pages of Life,
which is selling real well.
As a matter of fact, we have a little
little clip here from their latest album, In Another Lifetime.
Is the name.
[Bb] Watch.
_ [G] In [C] another [Gm] _ lifetime, [C] _
[F] [Gm] in another [Dm] day.
_ [G] _ [Dm] [C] If I say [F] what's on my [C] mind, you'll love [G] me anyway.
_ Please say hello to [Eb] Chris Hillman of the Desert Rose Band.
[Bb] _
_ _ _ _ _ Come _ _ on over here, Chris.
[B] Good _ to see you.
_ _ [Bb] _ _ _ _
_ _ Now, last time we kissed, you did not make my face bleed.
[B] New beard.
Oh, yeah.
New beard.
Have [Bb] you had a lot of attention over the new look?
_ _ Yeah.
They say you've lost a lot of weight, which I have.
But you see, we didn't work for two months in November and December,
and I lost the razor and sort of that rugged look.
This is cash, right?
Real cash.
Well, it looks good.
I'm going to lose this beard,
I think, in a couple of days.
No, no.
See, I was curious, because when somebody who's in the limelight, like yourself,
an entertainer, changes his appearance, do you ask for advice like managers and booking agents?
No.
No, Charlie.
I mean, seriously, there are people who would do that, you know?
There's a sort of a service that's popped up in the business in the last 20 years,
like image consultants.
And it scares me when somebody is an image consultant,
you know, because we didn't have that back in the old 60s and the birds and stuff.
Boy, that's scary.
Somebody comes along and says,
I think you should get a mohawk and get current.
Yeah.
No way.
Purple lipstick, because then everybody will, you know, do this and that.
So you've got to follow your heart here.
Hey, actually, you were on our show earlier in the week,
because you were part of the tribute to Roy Orbison.
Yeah, I sent you a personal message.
[Db] Young lady taped us in Los [Bb] Angeles.
That was Saturday night, last Saturday night.
I said, hi, Charlie Lorien.
But we didn't see it.
Folks, they didn't show it.
I'll go look for it.
We didn't know it was here.
I know.
Yes.
But we had a great time.
The [G] benefit Barbara Orbison, Roy's [Bb] widow, puts on for homeless people.
And a lot of real good stars were out there, of course, in country music.
Emmylou Harrison, Ricky Skaggs, Larry Gatlin.
A bunch of them were there.
Was that kind of an honor to be asked to appear?
Yes, absolutely.
And it gives me an opportunity to play with my old friends, the birds.
So David Crosby, Roger McKinnon.
We had a special guest come in.
Bob Dylan sat in with us and played.
So that was real nice.
Speaking of the birds, aren't you guys eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this [Ab] year?
We're eligible 1990.
Yeah.
[G] _ _ _ That has to be, if this happens, the highlight of your life.
If there was anything I would love to get as far as an award, it would be
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to be in something next to Elvis Presley or the
Everly Brothers or the Beatles or something.
And now with the new music, who knows, maybe the Country Music Hall of Fame in 10 or 15 years.
I mean, you could be a first there.
Hey, you're talking about your appearance at the tribute to Roy Orbison, which was for the homeless.
I know you guys speak out on particular problems that face America.
And one song I want to bring up, because you co-wrote it with Steve Hill,
and that's Darkness on the Playground.
Do you try to be socially conscious with your music?
Or sometimes when a thought hits you, you say, well, we've got to talk about this.
This deals with drugs.
Well, this [Bb] particular time, we don't try and write _ protest songs per se.
But this particular subject hit home.
I'm a father.
I have two children, small children.
And what we're dealing with in this song is drugs, anti-drug song.
And the song Darkness on the Playground is dealing with kids and drugs in the country.
And without being specific, dealing more in subtleties, but more on a level of compassion.
Is to reach out for these children.
And I say children, because they're real young that are getting into this.
And it's not just the drugs.
It's the general apathy in the country with kids where I don't care.
And I don't care what do I have to live for.
And that's what we have to steer them away from.
And it really takes a situation.
The government isn't going to bail us all out of this problem.
It's down to the neighborhood, the family.
It's what you teach in your home values.
And how your neighborhood reacts to a situation like that.
And if you have a situation, then everybody get together and work it out.
And awareness and education will triumph.
I admire your ability to put in a song.
Well, you have a couple of small kids.
Yeah, sure.
[Em] Everybody's concerned about anybody that has [Bb] children or knows children.
Or if you're an aunt or uncle.
I mean, this is a problem.
And along with a lot, we can we can fix them.
We can fix any problem that we have in this country.
It's a great country.
We're going to survive.
The [Gb] human race will survive.
[Bb] Everything will be fine.
But we have to constantly work at it.
Well, now, you know, kids hate to be preached to.
How do you do this in your song without looking like, you know, you're an adult?
I know.
That's the tough part.
You don't want to get on the soapbox.
And whenever you say, don't do this, of course, what are they going to do?
They're going to do that. _
_ _ _ Educating kids really at a young age and trying.
All you can do is you can give them values in the home.
And when they're leaving that your house, you pray to God,
everything works out, everything you've taught them.
But listen to your children and love them.
Listen to them.
They're human beings.
They're they're little adults almost.
And you have to just have to read through them.
You know, I mean, [G] you've got young ones and it's tough.
No guarantees.
We can just try.
Have you always been this philosophical?
You really are.
And it's good.
I wrote all this down in the back. _ _ _
Well, you know, a lot of people have termed the Desert Rose Band as the band
of the 90s.
So I know you guys are entering into this new decade.
I mean, just full of a good group together.
You really know, I'm real happy.
This is the best band I've ever been in as far as people and _ professionalism.
And we're just we're lucky.
We're glad to be doing [Gbm] this.
We don't really take it for granted.
We work real hard.
That is nice to hear.
We're glad you're doing it.
So pleasure to be able to do a new album from the Desert Rose Band.
If you get a chance to pick it up, you'll enjoy the music.
And Chris, good luck with the birds and the Desert [B] Rose Band.
Thank you.
Thanks for being here.
_ _ _ _ _ Jan Brown will also be our guest on the next show.
Well, our guest today is Chris Hillman, [B] the leader of the Desert Rose Band.
I think he knows this.
I've been in awe of him for so many years.
He's such a terrific singer and songwriter and has done so much historically for music.
That's true.
And this is the latest effort by the Desert Rose Band called Pages of Life,
which is selling real well.
As a matter of fact, we have a little
little clip here from their latest album, In Another Lifetime.
Is the name.
[Bb] Watch.
_ [G] In [C] another [Gm] _ lifetime, [C] _
[F] [Gm] in another [Dm] day.
_ [G] _ [Dm] [C] If I say [F] what's on my [C] mind, you'll love [G] me anyway.
_ Please say hello to [Eb] Chris Hillman of the Desert Rose Band.
[Bb] _
_ _ _ _ _ Come _ _ on over here, Chris.
[B] Good _ to see you.
_ _ [Bb] _ _ _ _
_ _ Now, last time we kissed, you did not make my face bleed.
[B] New beard.
Oh, yeah.
New beard.
Have [Bb] you had a lot of attention over the new look?
_ _ Yeah.
They say you've lost a lot of weight, which I have.
But you see, we didn't work for two months in November and December,
and I lost the razor and sort of that rugged look.
This is cash, right?
Real cash.
Well, it looks good.
I'm going to lose this beard,
I think, in a couple of days.
No, no.
See, I was curious, because when somebody who's in the limelight, like yourself,
an entertainer, changes his appearance, do you ask for advice like managers and booking agents?
No.
No, Charlie.
I mean, seriously, there are people who would do that, you know?
There's a sort of a service that's popped up in the business in the last 20 years,
like image consultants.
And it scares me when somebody is an image consultant,
you know, because we didn't have that back in the old 60s and the birds and stuff.
Boy, that's scary.
Somebody comes along and says,
I think you should get a mohawk and get current.
Yeah.
No way.
Purple lipstick, because then everybody will, you know, do this and that.
So you've got to follow your heart here.
Hey, actually, you were on our show earlier in the week,
because you were part of the tribute to Roy Orbison.
Yeah, I sent you a personal message.
[Db] Young lady taped us in Los [Bb] Angeles.
That was Saturday night, last Saturday night.
I said, hi, Charlie Lorien.
But we didn't see it.
Folks, they didn't show it.
I'll go look for it.
We didn't know it was here.
I know.
Yes.
But we had a great time.
The [G] benefit Barbara Orbison, Roy's [Bb] widow, puts on for homeless people.
And a lot of real good stars were out there, of course, in country music.
Emmylou Harrison, Ricky Skaggs, Larry Gatlin.
A bunch of them were there.
Was that kind of an honor to be asked to appear?
Yes, absolutely.
And it gives me an opportunity to play with my old friends, the birds.
So David Crosby, Roger McKinnon.
We had a special guest come in.
Bob Dylan sat in with us and played.
So that was real nice.
Speaking of the birds, aren't you guys eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this [Ab] year?
We're eligible 1990.
Yeah.
[G] _ _ _ That has to be, if this happens, the highlight of your life.
If there was anything I would love to get as far as an award, it would be
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to be in something next to Elvis Presley or the
Everly Brothers or the Beatles or something.
And now with the new music, who knows, maybe the Country Music Hall of Fame in 10 or 15 years.
I mean, you could be a first there.
Hey, you're talking about your appearance at the tribute to Roy Orbison, which was for the homeless.
I know you guys speak out on particular problems that face America.
And one song I want to bring up, because you co-wrote it with Steve Hill,
and that's Darkness on the Playground.
Do you try to be socially conscious with your music?
Or sometimes when a thought hits you, you say, well, we've got to talk about this.
This deals with drugs.
Well, this [Bb] particular time, we don't try and write _ protest songs per se.
But this particular subject hit home.
I'm a father.
I have two children, small children.
And what we're dealing with in this song is drugs, anti-drug song.
And the song Darkness on the Playground is dealing with kids and drugs in the country.
And without being specific, dealing more in subtleties, but more on a level of compassion.
Is to reach out for these children.
And I say children, because they're real young that are getting into this.
And it's not just the drugs.
It's the general apathy in the country with kids where I don't care.
And I don't care what do I have to live for.
And that's what we have to steer them away from.
And it really takes a situation.
The government isn't going to bail us all out of this problem.
It's down to the neighborhood, the family.
It's what you teach in your home values.
And how your neighborhood reacts to a situation like that.
And if you have a situation, then everybody get together and work it out.
And awareness and education will triumph.
I admire your ability to put in a song.
Well, you have a couple of small kids.
Yeah, sure.
[Em] Everybody's concerned about anybody that has [Bb] children or knows children.
Or if you're an aunt or uncle.
I mean, this is a problem.
And along with a lot, we can we can fix them.
We can fix any problem that we have in this country.
It's a great country.
We're going to survive.
The [Gb] human race will survive.
[Bb] Everything will be fine.
But we have to constantly work at it.
Well, now, you know, kids hate to be preached to.
How do you do this in your song without looking like, you know, you're an adult?
I know.
That's the tough part.
You don't want to get on the soapbox.
And whenever you say, don't do this, of course, what are they going to do?
They're going to do that. _
_ _ _ Educating kids really at a young age and trying.
All you can do is you can give them values in the home.
And when they're leaving that your house, you pray to God,
everything works out, everything you've taught them.
But listen to your children and love them.
Listen to them.
They're human beings.
They're they're little adults almost.
And you have to just have to read through them.
You know, I mean, [G] you've got young ones and it's tough.
No guarantees.
We can just try.
Have you always been this philosophical?
You really are.
And it's good.
I wrote all this down in the back. _ _ _
Well, you know, a lot of people have termed the Desert Rose Band as the band
of the 90s.
So I know you guys are entering into this new decade.
I mean, just full of a good group together.
You really know, I'm real happy.
This is the best band I've ever been in as far as people and _ professionalism.
And we're just we're lucky.
We're glad to be doing [Gbm] this.
We don't really take it for granted.
We work real hard.
That is nice to hear.
We're glad you're doing it.
So pleasure to be able to do a new album from the Desert Rose Band.
If you get a chance to pick it up, you'll enjoy the music.
And Chris, good luck with the birds and the Desert [B] Rose Band.
Thank you.
Thanks for being here.